Wow...someone has a lot of cash, and needs to be donating it to charity, not spending it on rediculous "entertainment" systems.

I would have spent less money on a Meridian Reference Series system and put the rest of the money elsewhere.

Well it's his money, he can do as he wants with it. Though I think that system is major overkill.

@ David A man builds, a parasite asks 'Where's my share?' Your comments just make you sound bitter that you don't have that kind of money to spend. This is the spirit of capitalism. I applaud Mr Kipnis.

Wireless???

No xbox 360? No HTPC? Am I supposed to put my feet up on that glass coffee table? Dude, come on, spend some cash, get a recliner.

Put the amps in front of the speakers? Isn't that gonna trash the sound stage? Besides, how much source material is available in 8.8 surround. stupid.

Coolest thing about the room... Nautilus Submarine... What a joke.

What a waste. You could get a nearly-equivalent experience with a lot less equipment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns Also, it's interesting that they opted for a circle of toed-in speakers nowhere near the walls... this really limits the best effect to a very small "sweet spot". If I ever spent anywhere near that much money on a home theater, I'd want to be able to enjoy it with a larger group of friends than one 3-seat couch will accommodate.

I have to agree with the majority of posts here: he could have accomplished very much the same results (or even better) with a lot less money, but then I guess that's why some people spend $10K and up on a Rolex when a $400 Seiko looks just as nice and tells time, too. This is like building a skyscraper and plating it in gold. Why bother? I don't think even Donald Trump would throw away that much money on hardware (all of which is very nice, by the way; just too much of it) which could be used to build a better acoustic environment.

from one audiophile to another i give this guy nothing but respect. Its because of people like this guy that new innovative ideas are brought to the table. Testing systems to the limits, making systems better, finding there strengths and weaknesses. It just seems to me that the people leaving negative comments more then likely have not the understanding nor the commitment to love something so much and accomplish there own personal AV Dream. Keep on living the dream Jeremy Kipnis.

I agree 6 mil is overkill for this setup, 50 grand would do hell of a nice setup and have 5,550,000 leftover for other things like 2009 corvettes,16 gb iphones,Intel QX 9650 cpus,9800 GX2 1Gb video cards and ...lol

Totally tasteless - Back wall showing Yuk! Get some curtains! McIntosh Tubes? M'eh - I sold them & Never liked them. I'll keep my Bryston's - B&W's and M&K 5000sub - top of lines for millions less! I agree with above post - Need a place for feet too!

I'd love to be Kipnis' neighbor and learn about another persons process, different products and limitations. I'm into quality and yes quality costs money so I'm not surprised at 6M. Sure I cannot afford it, but if someone wants to, let them. I finished my dedicated HT and now I look back and plan to improve parts for the next one I build. Upgrading equipment to top of the line is not for everyone, but when they experience what high-quality products deliver, they are not complaining.

Hey Barry L., $6,000,000 - $50,000 = $5,950,000 LOL

I love the screen size, but for me it's a lot of overkill to me. The 6 million I really don't have a problem with, but I would have used less money on all the speakers and other stuff, and put more of it into making the room look a lot better, and some really nice Reclining Seats with at least a couple rows of seating. I like the Submarine, but does it really need to be there? I'd want my feet up in my 6M home Theater, siting there for a few hours. That 3 person couch just doesn't cut it for me!!! It just seems so wasteful, So much of everything for 3 people?!?! Myself, I'd have a group of friends and or family there watching "The Matrix" in HD DVD or something. If you have the money spend it. Sure it may seem like a waste, but the Rich BUY all this stuff, Cars, Boats, Homes, and where does it come from? Well it's Made by PEOPLE! All the people to get the Materials to the People who Design, who Build, Who Ship. That's Jobs, lots and Lots of Jobs for y

Michael, did you really quote "Bioshock" to insult someone LOL

I was impressed until I releazed he didn't use Pear Anjou Speaker cables!

I agree with everyone else...overkill. Plus if you're going to spend that much money, at least hide the amps and speakers. Its all a bit distracting. When watching a movie, I want to see the screen and nothing else.

Problem is, if he's done this all himself, it won't be THX certified. But if you go to any concert hall and look around, you'll know that good sound doesn't just come from what make the sound but what the sound reflects off. In this case, I think (as many above have pointed out), he's wasted a lot of money. To justify spending that much money on audio toys, you need to get the room properly architected.

The biggest sin is, with all that money spent, it looks as though zilch was spent on proper acoustic design and treatments. Book cases don't cut it on a 6 million dollar setup! That's a joke! Nevermind the tube hamps having severe microphonics from being placed in front of mamoth subwoofers and 10Hz signals!! No Rotary Subs either!! This theater is FAR from SOTA, he really should have hired a consultant LOL.

Biggest joke of all - He has a QuadHD projector (latest marketing term), and he's only feeding it (at best) 1080i. With all that money he wasted, I would have asked Sony to build a one-off that was HDCP compliant. He blew a fortune on that projector, and he's only upscaling 1080i, what a waste. This guy really blew his load thinking he knew what he was doing. Most of the 'audiophiles' out there don't really know squat (although, those that are actual engineers are the only ones I respect - they don't buy into the marketing fluff of "price = performance"). He definately should have spent 1/100th of that ($60k) on building a better shaped room, and then spend some dough on accoustics. I question (with having all those speakers pointing in), how much signal cancellation is actually taking place, the "sweetspot" is probably just a jumbled mess of audio signals. He turned all his speakers to face the same spot, I bet it's more of a deadspot. Audioph

What a sad, sad, simple-minded man. Same goes to all of you who applaud his efforts. I'm guessing evolving spiritually is not one of his priorities.

I dont understand how so many people can comment on the theater sound or video without having experienced it first hand.

...my first feeeling especially seeing the overview is... you have to be an American, or some kind of new super-rich from the developing world, to find that too much stuff is cool and not a waste, or to find the idea of spending 6Mio that way is OK because it's your money so no one can judge, and better spend it in what you like the most etc etc... utterly selfish in my opinion, I will not argue about what could replace this best or whatever... but apart from the price, just the quantity of energy this must consume for the pleasure of 1-2-3 people makes me feel sick

To those of you posting comments... unless you are an audio engineer or a man with his connections and history in the industry, I'll take your opinions with a grain of salt. It's safe to say that NONE of you have heard this system, nor anything even remotely in the same arena, so I doubt you'd have much say as to what is a good expenditure on his part. I'm quite sure he has PLENTY of knowledge in room acoustics, and has thought of everything necessary to bring out the full quality of these components, otherwise he wouldn't be touting it as "The Greatest Show On Earth" and trying to market it to industry giants like George Lucas or movie industry professionals. If you look closely, you'll see that the walls are covered in acoustic foam panels, so it's not entirely a lost cause.

At first I was impressed, then I thought to myself, this whole thing had better be powered by solar panels, otherwise watching a single movie would warm up the planet by 10 degrees Fahrenheit.

$6 million worth of A/V equipment, including a 4K Sony projector and he's... upscaling component video outputs? My god, what a waste. That's like flying to Paris on the Concorde so you can eat at McDonalds.

Hey Naysayer, he's only using the component outputs of his HD DVD and Blu Ray players because that's the best he can do to connect to the projector at the moment, seeing as how there's no HDMI connections on that thing. Anyway, its native resolution is much higher than any home medium can spit out, so there's upgrade options still available. He'll probably do like he says: commission Snell & Wilcox to create an upscaler that will keep the signal in the digital domain. Besides, I'm sure it looks spectacular.

Wow! Having read each of the previous comments I'm not sure what I can add. But I'll try: He chose the Snells 'cause Snell worked with Lucas on developing THX. I think they cost much too much for the sound you get (which is awesome!). The Murata's are incredible products. The Stewart Snowmatte is to die for. Amps and other components are truly interchangeable. You could probably get more for less, but specs on the room and the equipment on paper are mind blowing. The picture and sound must be incredible in person. After reading this guys bio, I understand the madness and why he spent the money; though that's not a choice I would make.

I have to admire his vision and innovation. But he did go way over the top. He just put and extreme amount of money on something that has no returns. And yes, there are better projection options.

You are all dumb asses. There are acoustical treatments on the walls and you can see them in the pictures. You have not heard, nor can you say for sure, what this system sounds like. You are all jealous idiots. Go make 6 million + and you can do with it as you please. You have no idea if this dude contributes to charity, nor what amount. Get a life - stop judging others - make you own money - stop complaining.

He chose to spend his money the way he wishes - that's the way it's supposed to be. Good for him! I'll bet it's a wonderful system that sounds and looks fabulous. Way to go.

To bad he went with Snell - WEGG3 is a far superior speaker.

@Michael @kodiakthejuggler @Alien: My thoughts exactly! I can't wait to spend $6+ million on my dream system.

Yep, you're right, if you have the cash and the passion, chase your dreams. This is truly the holy grail of AV setups, and nice to see the only real NEXT generation console there, the PS3. This system rocks. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Short sighted. How much does a formula 1 car cost? Building this helps everyone here who enjoys home theater. I applaud him for his dream. Also never judge a person regarding whether or not they are giving money to charity unless your first name is Bill and last name is Gates. For all your complaining he could have given 75 million dollars away and kept a few for himself.

F charity, I want to see video of this! pictures arent enough.

Ah, the inevitable and annoying "gosh he shoulda donated to charity instead; what a waste" comments (read: I am a low income earner who is incredibly jealous OR I am an unnaturally pretentious person who judges other unreasonably). There are far worse crimes against humanity than building a killer home theater, why don't you all use your time to rail against those? Anyways, who says he doesn't donate to charity? I'd even bet the economic stimulation from that kind of cash outlay is more a efficient use of resources than less scrupulous charities, of which the cynic in me believes there are plenty. I admire this guy's dedication to fully pursue his passion, and as an audio enthusiast myself I certainly admire the beautiful system he's put together. Would love to experience/own something in my lifetime that even *begins* to approach what this must be like.

I like how all the audiophiles in this thread know sooooo much more than this guy.

Concept and possibilities, indeed it might be a tad overkill but that was probably also the aim. The fact that someone actually put this together is extremely cool. About the money it looks like a concept car spend years and millions developing it and probably will never even drive, but putting it together will actually be the lesson. Not about the final product but about the journey to get there...

Sweet showroom, I hope he wrote it off in his taxes. If he doesn't sell a system to Lucas, et al. he can write it off again as a business loss! I'm surprised he didn't go custom for that much money rather than limit himself to off the shelf components, etc.

umm exactly what are all those amps doing in the room? They aren't connected to anything.

Looks crap. Too much going on. It just screams, "Look at me, I'm rich". Less is more.

*Wow...someone has a lot of cash, and needs to be donating it to charity, not spending it on rediculous "entertainment" systems. * Wow...someone needs to go back to school and learn how to "spell".

I just like to be there :) thats all

@Calvin Chan: that's the funny thing with lots of audiophiles - everyone knows everything better than the other one. one of my favourite things about audiophiles is: go to an audio forum, choose some audiophile cabling topic and laugh your ass off. i know some very nice text, but sadly it's in german. it's a physical approach to audiophile cabling and explaining in a very scientific way that all those super-expensive audio-cables are pure bullshit. really hilarious - you can silence lots of cabling threads with that article :)

I was impressed until I releazed that he watch simple cartoons on it… ;-) - joke

Look at all the "haters" - Since he wants to sell this system, it's an investment. Like Waldo said, Snell is a good choice because George Lucas worked with them, and when has Lucas been wrong about anything? He probably will buy one from Kipnis because Lucas probably doesn't know many people in the home entertainment arena that could put together a system for him. Also, to whoever said it should have more seating: bad idea if these are in California, because that would just increase the odds of someone being crushed by a subwoofer should an earthquake hit. And yeah, f--- this charity stuff - poor people don't know good home theater! What are you liberals thinking???

While I applaud the effort to get maximum performance, I can't help but agree with another post that I hope this guy is using his extreme wealth to better the world in some way and not just on 3-seat 6 million dollar personal home theaters. Using the component output of a first generation Blu-Ray player? That's kinda gross. Why not get the $250,000 Runco SC-1 which does have HDCP compliant digital inputs, uses the professional DMD made exclusively for commercial cinema DLP projectors, and has enough lumens to light up a screen even much bigger than the one he's using. And why in the world would you do a theater of this scale and not do a Cinemascope set-up with variable masking for different aspect ratios? And while the visual layout of the speakers is interesting, there is no way that each speaker position has been optimized. And an add-on tweeter scares me a bit. The speaker is either up to the task or it isn't. Adding on drivers to get more of 'something' is a hack.

You guys don't know what it's like to have 6 mil home theater system, you act like 50k system would practically be just as good, lol

All you nitpickers, just read the article. The author was transformed by this room.

Face it. This is sick. In a capitalist society one gets the chance to pursue one's dreams. I just hope he splurged on the Logitech Harmony 1000 Remote. :-)

I am both an audio systems engineer and have worked in high end audio and video for over 25 years. This guy's system is a statement. It was designed to knock socks off...the author even says it was designed as a 'total immersion' system. So to all the whiners who think high end cables are crap, or those who don't like the system or room look, or those who note the amp placement will alter the soundstage, or those who just want to criticize spelling...you're more entertaining than the article was. Yeah it sucks that some people have that much money and we don't, but in the context of all the systems I've seen and installed over the years, this wretched excess of a system is right up there with the best of them for sheer eye pop, and the bass will probably make little old ladies puke for blocks. (Do you think they removed the cables for the photo shoot?)

The man is wise in not having a 360 for that beauty, it would be a waste to have an obsolete piece of hardware for that powerhouse. about the cost, is HIS money and he got the right to spend it as he please.

yeah its best to have ps3 for true hd gaming.

The PlayStation 3 is the best Console ever made!

Thank god your clever analogies stopped half way down the page. The comments are much more entertaining when read in the voice of the fat comic store owner from the Simpsons. The guy made a dream happen, when was the last time any of you did that?

There is much more specifications that were left out of the article that can be found on the creators web site. http://www.kipnis-studios.com/The_Kipnis_Studio_Standard/KSS.html Read and Learn!

WOW! Gonna have to visit the US after all I think! ;-) Now all we need are some good movies to come out - movies that not only fullfill the technological specs of this monstrosity, but also have a good book AND good actors, not just effects (yes, George Lucas, I'm looking into YOUR direction, you trout!). Still I would love to watch the Chris Cuningham / Aphex-Twin collection on this thing!

LMAO where ever you go the PS3 fan boys feel the need to justify their over priced toaster ovens. And where the hell is the popcorn maker??????

"LMAO where ever you go the PS3 fan boys feel the need to justify their over priced toaster ovens. And where the hell is the popcorn maker??????" On the top of the Xcrap360

WOW 11,315 Watts! I wonder how much his electric bill is each month...

He's either ignorant of acoustics or he values the "coolness factor" much more than good acoustic principles -- which makes him a showboater and a bit of a poser. Look at the centre speakers (the most important speakers in the system). The first reflection will be smeared by the hard transformer covers of the amps that they're waaay too close to, and he has placed the amps smack in front of the drivers near the direct wave/ first reflection point. This will badly smear transients and distort the subtle nuances of dialogue. Very perplexing. Anyone who truly cared about the sound would have put the amps behind the speakers or off to the side... so one would have to conclude that this setup is driven more by ego and peacock feathers than by a sincere desire for sonic excellence.

I commend the guy...and I must say to those that think he didnt spend his money wisely "what do you know?" the article is short, I am sure a lot of info was overlooked..he isnt selling a set-up for no reason and it sounds more like a concept and design that is superior to whats out there...its the fullest range system out there, how can you go wrong!

what a waste

This is not a personal system. It is a DEMO room. Jeez did you all go blind at the sight of the price? He's selling the concept and is probably dealing the brands as well.

bet this sounds no better than my 5.9 million dollar system...

Even if he did pay for it all, first it's his money, second that money goes to the companies who can do what they like with it. Such as hiring more employees or investing it in capital resources. Why do so many people think money is wasted and disappears when it is spent on something?

you woulda saved @ least 4 million dollars if you woulda just bought that $200 hearing aid .....hehe

I don't understand why he didn't put those speakers on a raised platform, to make them project the sound away from the Mac's. But, it is his money and he can do with it as he pleases, I guess.

I think everyone has missed the point, you keep talking about dead spots and acoustics, and reflections and stuff... That's the whole point behind his system and why he has so many speakers in it... Whenever he found his system lacking something he added more speakers and amplifiers until it sounded the way that he wanted it to... While it may be possible to get a better sounding system, i doubt that it would ever be able to play as loudly and still be clean and clear.

What is with all the negativity, can't someone do something nice and have people react positively? The internet brings out the worst in people, so much negativity and dissimulative comments. Guess what people you don't get to vote, could of, should of, I would have blah blah blah... It is a marvel of home entertainment engineering. Get over yourselfs and congratulate them on a job well done!

were too jealous that we dont have 6 million to spend on audio/video equipment. Also, since he spent that much, wheres the orgasmatron? ...eeeer o wait i think i remember seeing the roll of tissure paper @ the end of the coffee table. We arent actually negative but jealous we cant do this..hehe...those x rated flicks would be awesome on his system i bet.

Jeezuz, I've seen ghetto home theaters that look better than that mess. Who cares how it sounds when the room looks like shit! To top it all off, he wants to use it as a demo to sell systems based off it? I'd love to call the guy up as a prospective client, walk in, look around, and just bust out laughing hysterically.

Congratulations to Mr. Kipnis. Btw, it's "ridiculous", not "rediculous". Let the man spend his cash in whichever way he wishes. It's his dream, let him chase it. And please, don't tell me know more than a certified sound engineer who has been doing this for over 25 years. You have no idea what you are talking about. This person has had years to perfect his craft. Also, IN HIS OPINION, this is the best system money can buy, AT THIS TIME. It's up to him to decide what sounds best to HIM. Anyway, I would love to hear and feel this system. Congrats, Mr Kipnis. And keep up the good work.

Did anybody ever think that "in practice" the amps wouldn't be right in front of the speakers? I would hope people would understand that this is just a photo journalistic display of the Whole product. Like any sales ad. Show everything in one picture. Screen, Speakers, Electronics. These folks are breaking ground on a new type of personal theater. Go to the local amc with 10 of your buddies and watch "Cloverfield" with this setup

Put away the HATORAID you bunch of fags, he can spend his money on whatever he wants to spend it on, if you don't like it go earn your own money and give it away. Always some idiots that have to cry b/c they can't afford it, go hug a tree!

Oh good Lord, this is rich. Here we have a fellow who spent several million of his own money to build a killer home theater setup. I personally found this interesting. But even more fascinating was the howls of self-righteous indigation from those denizens sitting in their warm homes and at their computers - screaming how can this be?!! Why didn't he just spend his money on bettering humanity? Well, I suppose you ought to ask yourself this question - you denizen of audio video interiors - what have you done today to better the life of some starving kid in Dharfur? Do you contribute any of your money at all to charities? Or do you pass judgement on others as you sit in your easy chair perusing audio-video interior and listen to your favorite tunes on your entertainment system? Maybe you should not worry about the splinter in this fellow's eye and instead concentrate in getting the log out yours. I'd stick around for the flames - but the stench of hypocrisy is too thick - need to surfac

That is awesome! Mr. Kipnis is now a new inspiration for me. Excellent work, it's always happy to see someone fulfilling their dreams. :) (And to hell with all you haters, grow up and get a real job)

The heck with that system, I want that model of Captain Nemo's Nautilus. Way cool! Alright, the system would be nice.

whoever said a $50,000 system would equal this is nuts, whoever said give more of it to charity is nuts...im sure the guy gives plenty to charity and a $50,000 system would be piss to this. people, please think before you comment....FFS

I think it's brilliant and all the people knocking on the system and claiming that they could build better are just jealous. I mean c'mon obviously he knows what he's doing... The photos show that the amps aren't hooked up and are clearly for show. He isn't stupid... he's made 6 million dollars more then you... and plus he's been able to put that money into a home theater. Now go home to your 2500 dollar setups with your elitism and suck on your remotes.

I agree with those of you who dissagree with those who criticize this guy for spending his money on whatever he wants. Some of you on here asked why he doesn't give this money to charity. Did you every stop to wonder how much he already does give the charity before you pass judgment??? It is definitely not okay to do so without getting all of your facts straight, or to do it at all. You never know just how much money one make, I guy like him could give half of all his money away and still have enough money to do something like this 3 times over. At some point it is okay to spend your money on whatever you want without guilt. I bet that child in darfur wonders why you (hypothetically) spent $500 on your iphone or just $120 on your shoes, when a couple of bucks could feed him/her all he/she needs to eat for a month. Don't judge people. You do what you want with your means, and letter others do with theirs what they wish! PSU FOREVER BABY!!!! GO STATE!!!!

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I don't know about you.. the appearance of the setup is pretty messy to my taste.

oh wow there's a lot of jealous people posting on this! major props to this guy, bet it was was worth every penny!

WOW!Congratulations Mr.Kipnis for making "This" and good luck with future projects.However,if there is any xxx$ left over please consider making decent website.After all,if money is an issue for you there are lot of free templates on the internet that at least look professional and work great ;).Sometimes less could be more ;).

So many haters out there. That's a beautiful setup that probably sounds outstanding, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Enjoy, Mike

So if someone decided to spend 10 billion dollars on audio/visual equipment just so they could have the best home set up in the world, none of you "let freedom ring" folks would care? Capitalists make all that money because the middle class is too stupid to elect representatives that will demand higher wages and a better quality of life for the majority. Middle class like to slave away all day at some crap job, bending over taking it like an orphan.

Heh people commenting stuff like 'speakers are not near the walls'.. Showing utmost lack of knowledge. The _last_ thing you want is put a speaker next to a wall. It induces early reflections and spoils the soundstage. The small sweet spot is the price to pay for an ultimate sound.

Well as a closet audiophile with Magies powered by simple Adcom with Mac switching, I would like to say, you all are wrong, the person listening to the music, or watching the vid, matters, not your opinion, this crass negativity the pours from all of you, is beyond belief. Part of being what we are is too enjoy watching someone else experiment and find what they, not you, but what they think sounds or looks good. Isn't the whole theory, of a audiophile based on this, not what we think is perfect but what can we try, or just do it for the sake of doing it. Money should not be mentioned, I never have this level of money but can see most of you are wanting his money not his vision, I think the vision, is much more important. And quit basing on 360's, Halo 3 will never be on a PS3 at 1080i. Again all of you should be ashamed, we are all experimenters, why not rally around, and until you can build one...shut up, I think its great, I buy my house to fit my stereo, does that bother you too, its what you have

Its his cash so he can spend it in anyway he wants to. As long as he is happy with it. Thanks for sharing your system!

I think all this is a waste. If you've got 6M to blow on this stuff then go out and have an adventure. Go experience something instead of trying to recreate it through A/V equipment at home. All that junk works out to playing an Atari on a modern CRT. Your methods of output far exceed the quality of what you're putting into them. And 11k watts of sound into a 850sqft room? Like on the Simpsons THX sound intro, you are now deaf. Titanium on your amps? WTF, such a waste of resources for something that sits still! Titanium is normally used for things that move and need to be light. A home theater is awesome, but this is just glutony.

He can spend his money however he wants, but if I was going to spend $6 million on a home theater, it would hold more than 3-4 people! He could have bought a few less speakers, subs, and amps, and built a pretty sweet little auditorium for him and 30 of his best friends and still had fantastic orgasm inducing sound. IMO what he has is overkill.

Hey Court - Adventures are your dream. Back off this guys version of same. Did anyone see that this is a LAB. Labs never spend any money on the aesthetic and they keep everything in the open so that components can be swapped out or repaired easily. "But it's more than that. Kipnis sees the KSS as a laboratory, an ongoing experiment to advance the state of the art" "...and he imagines that, unlike his installation, the componentry and speakers will be stealthily deployed." If you people ever found out how much the Big 3 spend on concept vehicles that never make it to production it would make you puke. This is the home theater equivalent. And anyone who has more than a few synapses firing would know not to judge a system this complex based on an overview in an article. You just show your limited intelligence with comments such as that.

What an incredible waste of money. WTF? The ***one*** million dollar system wasn't good enough for you? Tweeters to 100 khz? That's only 80 khz above the limits of human hearing. I bet that system would be great for playing a recording of a dog whistle, so as to keep those pesky stray mutts away from your house.

Ummm, has it not occurred to anyone else that these shots look suspiciously like skillfully executed 3D renders with some clever Photoshop post-production? Or is it just me?

What a bunch of whining, jealous bitches. Is it over the top? Of course it is, it's billed as the ultimate you morons. The kind of people that will be buying this are billionaires (or at the very least multi-multi-millionaires) for whom $6m is peanuts. They're probably sitting in a 20,000 square foot house they don't need either. One way or another they've "made it" though, why shouldn't they spoil themselves rotten? Incredible beast of a "home" cinema, very well done. I for one think it looks amazing.

What type of idiot reads that article and assumes that all 11,000 watts will be employed instantly upon turning on? Some of you act like the system has two settings, off and 11,000W. Too loud!

I love how so many people can tell this guy what he should have done with HIS money. Yeah, yeah, I know its blasphemy to true audiophiles, but who doesn't want to be completely encircled by speakers and amps at least once in their life? Too bad no more than the three people can enjoy it at one time (but something tells me thats not a problem). Oh, and the real shame here is those are all laserdiscs in the bookshelves...

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get off his jock you are all corn balls i build speakers for a living and the way the room is set up even if the walls are covered its a waste the only reason it might sound good is cus hes pumping out so much sound that what ever is in front of the speaker wont matter its a waste the room is set up like crap and il tell you right now its now the speaker but how the speaker is built for the room best sound comes om custom speaker boxes that are designed for a space.... if he really wanted to impress i would of had the speakers custom built for the space but all in all its a waste

lol! :D It's so great to read about these so called experts, who judge and blame all they can. "What a retarded system, you could have made same for so much less money." "What no ?!" "LAL, sucks!" "DOUBLEWHAM LAL, quantum interference and the circular positioning of speakers sucks!" C'MON GUYS! This guy has a hobby! If this doesn't tell about true and honest passion, nothing does! I'd love to see a single movie in my life in environment like this. :) Enjoy your epic system!

David... you just need to STFU and worry about yoruself first. You know nothing about the guy, he could be donating a LOT of money (and thus contributing more than you ever have or will, dbag). Even if he isn't, it's none of your concern how he spends his dough... the more he spends, the more jobs and stimulation he provides our economy... far more than you have or ever will. So again, just STFU and keep your useless opinion to your self. Why is there always some self righteous arse mucking things up when ultimatley he is the one who is the complete loser in the mix?

Ok. Where i can buy this ?

Yikes! This is a for profit venture as well as an exercise in doing your best. It is not your "average" $50k home dream theater. However, I would not mind seeing a few tweaked Minimus 7's strategically placed..... ;-)

He might acidently send himself back in time if he's not careful. :p

Wow...I am amazed at the difference in opinions here. I only wish I was more of an audiophile to argue some of these brands and technologies. As for the craziness of this system, I believe as much as everyone criticizes this guy, he is the one listening to this setup. Something tells me this guy didn't walk into a store with 6mil and say, give me one of everything! I'm sure he researched all of these components and they make the system sound the way HE likes it! I'm sure he's also considering the opinions of others like George Lucas, etc. when building this, but come on... There's a reason there are multiple products available in every market. Each person puts a different aspect of a product at a different priority. It's just sad to see so many people giving this guy crap for enjoying his money. For everyone who said donate to charity, I bet you'd buy your $50,000 system, then buy $5,950,000 of other stuff! What a bunch of crap people. As for the creator of this,

I was not aware that Mc Intosh was doing wi-fi amplifier...

I'd like to see frequency response chart. I really wouldn't be that much surprised if it is a complete disaster/mess.

I actually like the way the room looks. Cracks me up how lot's of people here like to tell others how to spend their money. Earn your own money and spend it how you like.

I'm betting a good portion of that money went in to the construction of the space.... 2250 Sq/Ft. Custom Designed, Two-Story Concert Hall with Vaulted Ceiling & Balcony - 1" Solid Maple Flooring on 4" tall Pine studs - 12" spacing, sitting on a solid 16" reinforced concrete foundation, itself isolated on 4 - 156' solid steel girders all the way down to bedrock. Features non-parallel walls, ceiling, and floor, with dedicated installed noise isolation system, and acoustic treatments designed to supersede ANSI, SMPTE, AMPAS and AES/EBU noise specifications for professional movie theaters, mixing stages, and anechoic test chambers. Seating for 3-6 (Arizona Leather Curved Couch & Director's Chair) or up to 24 (Premium Leather Theatrical Recliners).

Obsolete in 5... 4... 3...

Wow. Is it even possible for you people to comprehend that somebody can look at unbelievable, ridiculous excess and disapprove without being "jealous"? Probably not. Sorry guys, I look at this and feel disgusted, and it has nothing to do with wishing I could have it myself. I guess if you spend your days smelling your own farts and congratulating yourself on how far above the masses you are, everybody else in the world is just a 'whiny, jealous bitch'.

I feel so inadequate.

Fascinating.... I do not see any power cords or wiring off the back of the amps......is this rig wireless?

it is sad that one even has not enough money for proper digital camera or this is product of photo enhancement. Perspectives, lighting, shadows, anything doesn't seen to be at place.

I wish I could "hear" this system through the pictures like so many other posters here so I too could comment on its audio quality. Unfortunately my .jpg to .mp3 codec isn't working properly. I'm sure during normal operation the components aren't in picture perfect placement (photo op). Regardless of how it may look aesthetically, the ultimate goal is if you feel immersed and like a part of what you are watching. And until the posters sit on that couch (one at a time, for size limitations of course), no one has a reason to criticize or comment on how poor the picture or sound may or may not be. Now, I'm gonna go watch a movie on my $400 Home Theater in a Box and envision what it could be with a KSS.

All of you people who think you're better than all, do you know this guy for telling that he can actually give that money in charity instead of building that system? When you walk the street and someone ask you for charity, why don't you give him your 20$ instead of going to cinema? Maybe this guy already give some millions in charity and this is his 20$ to go to cinema... Think before bashing..

Nice Nautilus

Muito Show!!!! Valeu, também gosto muito desse tipo de coisas.

He should have spent 10 million more on equipment, then throw it all into an incinerator, in full view of starving children and poor people in general. This would let them know its their fault they're poor and that he's not going to give one red cent to them as they lay dying at his feet. Then laugh as he steps over their frail bodies.

Its Fake, computer generated; there are no cables to the amps that are obviously powered on, the lighiting in the room especially the shot with the sub picture is just a bit off, the shadow on the couch is to sharp in the over head pic and the most telling evidence is on their own website "Dedicated scaling technologies are available to provide photo realistic 3D presentations" Well done even down to the dog on the couch.

One thing that is quite evident, is the lack of any if not all cabling...hmmm must be using that new wireless power technology as well! look at the picture of the equipment, there is no interconnects, the only device that seems "on" is the cable box. The second picture down you can clearly see the speaker terminals without a wire attached. Funny

Personally I think it's a bit much. But as some other people have posted, it is HIS money and he can do what he wants with it. I just hope that someone with that much money is also giving some of it to charitable organizations. I think if you are a multi-millionaire you should be obligated to share the wealth. Ya, it's a capitalist society, and he should be able to spoil himself once in a while, but I hope he's not a greedy bastard.

Six mil to watch a cartoon. Sad little man.

Ah vai se fuder meu!

screw charity...they worked hard for that money...just give it away your crazy lets see you give up your hard earned money

well i have to say, that is amazing , truly amazing, i would love to experience that system, i beleive you would not ever want to watch another movie anywhere after that. To the muppet who had a wah because this system cost 6 mill and he shoul fed the starving, grow up you have no clue what this gentleman does behind the scenes, maybe feeding the starving is his other passion, either way dont throw stones at people just because they have money and by the sounds of it earned it. On the cabling theres at least 3 pictures there showing cables and the amps in the ring actually have the cables fed thru the stans into the floor, not rockrt science.

Wow, doesn't invest it or anything....that's just plan stupid to spend that kind of money on something like that...just stupid...

Hey I've got an 8-pak o Guinness I can bring over!

This guy could charge 10-100 bucks to let people come in and listen and watch for 10 minutes and make his money back and more in no time.

What a waste. He should've only spent 50K on his theater and donated the remainder to the poor starving children in Dharfur. I hear they're also in desperate need of some acoustical treatments and PS3's over there. I read they don't want any Xbox360's.

Wait, wait, he blows $6M on his home theater, and yet he's UPSAMNPLING the video?!? I am going to laugh for days over this one. What an idiot.

Your either part of the problem or part of the solution. And this is most definitely part of the problem.

Boy what a bunch of jealous wankers, Its his coin and if he wants to spend this cash on bragging rights, All the power to him. Do you all cut up a man with a private jet because he could have flown in economy??? Or the hope diamond when you could have have zirconia ? 400 ft yacht when he could have cruised on disney?? Go play on your ps3 on your $999 benq and you self made painted screen

Phenomenal!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy it and dont worry about the stupid comments there is a lot of envy in this world. If I had the money i would do it too.

What a shame some of that 6 million wasn't wasted on aesthetics. That has to be the ugliest home theatre I've ever seen. Not to mention the fact that the lounge looks like it came from KMart.

1. It is a lab. a client install would take far more care about aesthetics. And as such, things are set to easily swap things out. and as he said, he is using it to play. 2. He did not spend 6 mill... he said it would cost somebody 6 mill to buy it. 3. the Runco... WHATEVER does not compare to this 4K beastie. 4. The guy on the couch is not him. he is the shaggy lookin dude. 5. 12000 watts of amplification is a fancy way of saying there are 24 x 500watt amps (or whatever the config is) not that he uses 12K watts to run the system. Why does he have to give the money to anybody? if he has worked hard and made lots of money, it is his. Sure it would make us feel nice if he did... but the money we are talking about could be considered as capital expenditures in a business. we know very little about him or his gig. to pretend we do is the height of ignorance.

Why the wood floors? I am sure that helps all of his nice sound equipment.

@Michael Capitalism my behind, thats simply a waste of money, although its his money to waste...When its all said and done its 6million bucks worth of already obsolete over-indulgence.....Its not about jealousy, its not even the best equipment out there for that kind of money, but I could see Bill Gates doing this, but then again he gives hundreds of MILLIONS to the unfortunate through his foundation, so there is a difference.....Heck the money this guy spent on a HT system so he could sit there and gain more weight gawking at his big screen, could have rebuilt how many homes in New Orleans, fed how many children?.....Hmmm.. Oh but its his money.

$6 million is a chunk of change to spend on stuff like this, but good for him. Giving it to charity? Sure - why not give some to charity. But for someone else to dictate that it SHOULD be given to charity? What dick. People like that SHOULD give all their money to charity - that would be the price of being so freaking smug. David's just a Daydreaming Marxist.

Most people don't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, not talking about the sound... some experiments have shown that, if properly set up, not even an audiophile could distinguise an mp3 from a SACD, and that's using "expensive" amps and speakers. That 6 million obscenity sounds and looks better than a 60K one just because it HAS TO (but maybe just in our minds). And no, I don't envy that guy who expends that amount of money for watching a bluray... and my english is far from perfect, I know... and my ps3 is expensive, but got it for free... and reading all those comments was great! By the way, don't listen your ipod that loud, or you could miss the 6 million experience some day... ;-)

Okay, can we stop it with the damn Playstation viral marketing? Thanks

I'm surprised the equipment list left out the details what would, judging by the walls of what appear to at least mostly be vinyl records, be one of the most important pieces of this setup: the turntable, an ELP Laser Turntable atop the right equipment rack. And also don't miss the Scientific-Atlanta Explorer 8300HD digital cable DVR in the lower left.

How does that cost six million dollars? Not even close. And, what the hell is 8.8 surround? That guy's in his fifties(easy): he can't even hear to 16khz. Supertweeters?! This is crap.

There's nothing that can't be achieved with egregious wealth, a lack of taste, and the willingness to step over dying bodies in the gutter on your way home from Blockbuster.

Is this the part where I point out that the Blu-ray player he's using down-reses the output when you don't use HDMI? Or that the projector that he's using is not an even multiple of the Blu-ray resolution? I mean, other people already pointed out that putting the amps in front of the speakers interferes with imaging. This is an example of just how poor studio execs are. As you can see, he's barely scraping by and for him to pay the actual songwriter 9 whole cents a song is clearly unreasonable, eh?

David, Wow... Someone needs to learn how to spell "ridiculous"!

@ Michael. Stop quoting Bioshock. Maybe he should be donating some money to charity if he has so much of it. That's not Capitalism, it's called being a good person. I'm glad we don't all live by your video game ideals. "A man builds, a parasite asks; "Wheres my share?", yeah, okay. That kind of thinking worked out great for Rapture didn't it??

Wow, skimming through the commments there's a lot of jealousy here. I think the system is F awesome and if I had more than enough cash to see my right I would indulge in my hobby also. Stop all the whining and give they guy some credit for allowing us to view his system. I bit it sounds better than most could ever imagine.

I'm sorry, but as much as I love music and higher quality audio and video, I could not justify spending that much money on it. There's a case of diminishing returns here, where I'm sure he could have spent a lot less and noticed a nominal difference in sound quality. Whether I'm jealous or not is irrelevant though - this is just ridiculous.

I would be interested in knowing how loud Mr Kipnis listens to his movies/music. I see the necessity of multiple subwoofers and of a good speaker array and good amps, but it sounds to me as though this theatre was based a bit too much on volume. I hate when I go to a theatre and the volume is too loud. I'd really be interested in a dB meassurement and sitting position. And is there really much video quality to be gained using a 4k projector with a LaserDisc-Player or a DVD-Player? Even for the cheap HD players the projector sounds slightly overkill. But I do envy Mr Kipnis for his astonishing theatre. I would just like to experience it myself and see whether all this is without the aforementioned issues.

Is the room climate controlled?

First thing, I think he has the right to spend his money on whatever he wants so stop whining. Second thing, the room is very well designed & for those people who know nothing about acoustics have a second look. He has acoustic foam around the whole room, but most importantly the book shelf. The book shelf is basically a huge diffuser, scattering the reflected sounds in all different directions thus removing room nodes and antinodes.

Hmmm ... I am an engineer/producer too. Can someone please tell me where to work to earn that much money (I know I should have been born 30 years earlier). From an audiophile point of view: I bet that system makes you literally shit your pants while watching Star Wars Clone Wars. From an engineer point of view: No one sitting in this room without above average knowledge about that stuff will ever appreciate the system in all its details the same way as the owner! This is a chapell, not a home theater, and it's fscking impressing but IMHO it's overkill. (I am wondering how close this setup follows the THX standards). From a earthling point of view: You should never expect every single person living on this planet to be as rational as yerself, especially when the person is very rich. PS: If you buy very expensive cables, be sure that they point to Mekka when you install them, otherwise they will not work!

That "Playstation viral marketing" is part of the article, as it's used in the "Greatest Show on Earth"... :-) I don't know how it is playing GT5 with that screen, but that table doesn't seem rough enough to attach a steering wheel. Of course it should be a wireless Bugatti Veyron real one (including pedals) with circuitry developed in cooperation with VAG group and tested by Bourdais. If that includes some well-known centerfold "pit girls" then I would think about paying 10 $ a minute... LOL

LMAO... a perfect demonstration of western ignorance and indulgence.. all that money and yet a total lack of acoustical design at all... and putting foam on the walls don't count friend... diffusing bookcases?: what a crock.. aesthetics? never seen such a COLD room for any amount of money... whoever he paid to consult is laughing all the way to the bank... a cost of 6 mil? I doubt it... acoustical coupling? look it up... putting the amps out front is just stupid.. has to destroy the spread... simple physics...my opinion: he HAD to make sure all the amps were out front so he could SEE where his money went... I'm sure it looks and sounds great... but 6 mil? he's an absolute moron with more money than brains and the fact that he wants us all to see it speaks volumes... I bet he drives a custom hummer and no, I have absolutely NO envy of this man... just stating to me what is painfully obvious... but then the world is full of stupid shit... we're an unevolved selfish species

And then a big lightning bolt fries the whole thing. Cause God hates anyone having a better system than his.

he's ``...considering commissioning a custom-built scaler from Silicon Optix or Snell & Wilcox.'' That's cool!!! The converter alone could spawn a new market/business. With guys like this pushing the envelope of what's possible- the rest of us will benefit from the trickle down. Without having folks push and improve quality- our society would be left with only the low end stuff wal-mart and target are willing to sell at rock bottom prices. Even though I'm years away from having a mere 50k theater- I'm glad we have folks pushing the high end further. When I get my 50k theater- it will be better because of the passion from guys like Kipnis. Keep up the good work Kipnis!!! I wish you continues success in your business ventures as your passion pushes A/V to further heights.

Wow! Is that Bose? Sorry, couldn't resist;-) mk

Curious...how do you people know the guy didn't give 12 million to charities the day before he started building this thing? He has 6 million for a system, I would bet that is not ALL of his money, and I would bet he has a LOT more. Maybe this is his one main extravagance, and the rest of his life is very unassuming to his being a millionaire (billionaire).

Big investment should give big returns. He can sell his idea and then donate the money to charity. PS: Can you donate me $300 so that I can buy a pair of desktop speakers.

I would just love to hear that system with a good movie.

well... GOD DAMNIT!!

It's his money - lesson to those who think he needs to "donate it" or do something else: Earn your own God Damn money and donate it and quit telling other people what to do with there's you fascist pigs. Maybe you'd feel better if the government controlled everybody's money including yours you ignorant and stupid morons saturated with your college professors liberal ideas of utopia where a very few get to control everybody's lives. Congratulations on building your dream system Mr. Kipnis - you have earned it - all of it. Good for you! I hope that it becomes a commercial success so others may enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Since when is a Theta Gen. VIII a surround sound processor? Why doesn't the equipment list mention the Theta Casablanca surround processor that's clearly visible in the photo of the projectors and equipment racks? What happened to his cables? Is is possible that they were all removed (either in reality or in PhotoShop) to make for cleaner-looking pictures?

He seems to have an excessive amount of equipment. My husband could do way better with way less, but that being said, if we were very wealthy I *KNOW* he'd put some crazy entertainment shit in some room.

Where are the wires ???

Damn man, can I come and play PlayStation3 on your set...?

Where is his remote? I wonder if the jackass even has a decent remote. Maybe he's hiding the 30 remotes just to run his sound system.

Overkill? Just a tad, maybe. I'm reminded of the Flanders & Swann song: "All the highest notes, neither sharp nor flat. The ear can't hear as high as that! Still, I ought to please any passing bat With my high fidelity." Actually the Nautilus model is the coolest thing in the room. At least it was probably worth the money!

How much interest would 6 mill get in 10 years? Then, how much will this crap be worth in 10 years?

It's their option how to spend money just like U, there's no "need" to do as U think. Plus u don even kno about this person.

talk about hypocritical - how many idiots are talking about poverty from the comfort of their comfy leather chair with their big gut hanging out of the t-shirt scoffing down a burger and fries. ps3 hahaha don't make me laugh, a guy has a $6M setup and you mention that glorified jap toaster in the same breath - too many envious morons in the world.

> With a bit of luck, Kipnis will get to play the KSS for the likes of George Lucas, Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, and Martin Scorsese. And who knows—they each might be so thrilled, they'll buy one on the spot. That would be great, but I wonder out loud, "Would you have done all of this if you didn't hope to turn it into a commercial enterprise? Would you have done it just for yourself?" Hey idiots - this is an inventment! if any of you mouth breathers RTA he wants to sell set ups like this to people - morons

To the guys whos say that he shouldn't have a 360, but should have a PS3, you guys are complete bozos. If he has that much money invested in a system, he could afford both. Not to mention a pretty damned good PC, (or Mac, or both....)

Gotta love all the ignorant comments. The man is obviously VERY wealthy, and most wealthy individuals donate more money then you will be worth in your entire life. It's also a great tax write off. For the people complaining about his the "investment" ... who cares ? You dont buy a Ferrari to make money, and you dont buy a Yacht to make money. You HAVE money and you want the BEST> If his set up is worth $2million in the future, is he gonna care ? Probably not. Might be upset he lost 4 million over several years, but he has the BEST in audio and video technology to show for it.

wooow crayz man what are you doin..maybe i can give you some advice about $6 million... $6 million = 28 ferrari modena, 2,7 bugatti veyron :) etc....

Wai il sait ce qui est bien tous sans une Ps3 sa l'aurais pas fais mais y'en a une donc ce truck est magnifique jouer a Cod4 la-dessus.....

I am running an "older" 7.1 loudspeaker system, and the WAF (wife acceptance factor) is quite low. A snapshot of the rack where the media PC, the playing devices and the amps are located looks a little like a setup at a rock concert. Great for tech lovers, not so great for a living room. I would like to see how this rig looks like having all wires connected to the amps, loudspeakers, etc. There is a reason why this isn't shown in those pictures. If I had 6 million to spend, I would build a house that has all the gear (players, amps, etc.) in a separate room and runs the cables invisible in a separate sandwich floor similar to office or server buildings. That way, you can still have lots of loudspeakers around you, but not have to deal with cables cluttering your home cinema room.

Everyone who condemns his spending his money on something he likes is just plain jealous. Why should he give it away to charity? He earned his money, he can spend it as he likes. Good for him. I bet his system is fantastic in every respect. He obviously has had time to research all the components. Besides, I know his musical background, and he knows what he is doing.

I just want to know if he used Monster Cables. That room could suffer from a lot of RF cross-talk. Stereo?

Yuo cannot afford. Deal.

Waouh Jeremy !!! 6 M$ while peoples are dying all over the world. Shame on you guy!

Truly an amazing system, but to be honest it is probably the most incredible overkill I've ever seen. The human ear probably isn't even so acute as to make any distinction in quality between this system and one that cost 10% as much. A much cheaper system may sound different, but not necessarily worse. And, as an afterthought, how much time do you have to spend watching movies to justify blowing $6 million on a home theater system? $200k will get you a system that is just as good.

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but several factors in this newbs room severely affect the acoustic environment a) wooden floors b) non-soundproofed walls c) again, ceiling this guy is a newb with lots of cash but very little brains. Spend some more cash on books imo

That´s just plain stupid. Who really wants to watch motion pictures in an environment like that. Really isn´t my kinda home theater. No matter how good the sound is. And I bet it isn´t "$6 million good".

is it just me, or is none of this connected? there are no cables showing anywhere (which is great) but I can see lots of empty connections on the back of speakers... no leads for the floor amps...etc

Too many reflective surfaces and too much ambient light from valves and everything else = crap movie experience. He has more money than sense, or taste, or.. pretty much everythin.. I bet it sounds as bad as it looks; bold, brash and ugly. BTW alfonso i think this set up is in a little too pricey to be using 'monster cables' bought at the local deli... :)

I guess someone thinking you're a jealous moron because saying this isn't 6 million worthwhile has a problem with his/her subconscious... ;-)

PLEASE HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT EVER HE WISH TO DO, I JUST WISH I HAD A CHANCH TO GET TO MEET HIM. WE ALL HAVE A WISH IN LIFE. GOOD LUCK LIFE IS SO SHORT IN TIME MICHAEL H LEMOI R.I.

What's funny is, many of you FAILED TO REALIZE the fact that he said Kloss was a neighbor and close friend from a young age...so how much of that do you think he really PAID for, at the very least, cost? Plus he's an engineer/producer now record label owner...do you really think he PAID for any of that? Get real... The guy has money, so what. It's a hobby, some people spend more money on worse things, like vintage stamps...wtf, you can't even use those. But so what, it's his money and a hobby...money gets spent. If any of you had the opportunity to HAVE all that, you would. Now, what you do with it would be your own prerogative, but he chose to utilize it all. I eprsonally would sell almost all of it, and less is more. But remember, it's his hobby, much like how many of us headphone geeks drop serious cash on headphones, he drops it on amps and speakers. Only a few can TRULEY understand the mans passion... Don't hate, congratulate, lol.

This is really just an advertisment for someone who said "I'll buy the best of everything, put it in a room and try to sell it to the people who make movies. Because it costs so much they will want this trophy." George Lucus has already developed a standard. He already knows what a great theater experience is because he set the standard so we could realize it too. If he wants better than what he has he would hire someone and TELL THEM what to put in it. Everyone here has already picked out the flaws with this system and we're no experts. So, what will people who are experts do to this conglomeration?

Wow, someone bought as much "stuff" as he could and crammed it into one room---and that's just how it looks. Maybe he should have sought a little acoustic design help and he could've gotten a better sounding system for MUCH less. No acoustic wall treatments, hardwood floor , glass table all giving multiple reflections, the tube amps in direct line with speakers for maximum vibration distortion, A/V library shelved against walls, and "wireless" connectors. Oh please. Along with the ugly lighting system, this whole thing looks like the dreamchild of every 19 year old know-nothing dorm-dweller. "Dude, it really makes my Xbox ROCK" A monument to waste and nonsensical overkill. I bet, done properly, a system costing 1/2 of 1% of this could sound better----after all, that's still 30K!!!!

I'm going to have to agree with some of the FPs: Excessive consumption is not a virtue.

To David : ( Posted Tue Feb 5, 2008, 1:50 PM — By David ) wow someone needs to learn not to tell other people how to spend their hard earned cash. This guys done a f